Have you ever been somewhere when it hits you that there's a theme running through your life? A summer of rebuilding, renewing, relaxing, reuniting, rewinding, redoing. My life was in transition, the furniture style I have been leaning toward is transitional, at work we're talking about the transition of out with the old and in with the new. I have been out of a relationship for many many months and thinking that eventually I will transition into the dating scene when the time is right and stable. Working with so many in the behavioral field these days there's been much talk about how many don't take the time to be in the limbo transition phase so a stable foundation can be acquired and tested. It's been said that many times it's just acquired and on people go before the home life and all is stable for a lengthy period of time. Then, they wonder why life is chaotic because they jumped too soon. So what about transitions in relationships? How do we decide when it's time to work toward a change? Change doesn't necessarily need to be a bad thing. Many don't like change but this isn't about sudden change it's that step in between that is the transition. An active choice you make for change and in some cases you mature into this transition. I read an article about how a woman should never move in with her boyfriend until she's engaged with a date set. That's the only thing that should be a transition. If you move in, the article eluded that it's just geography and not a transition in the relationship. What do you all think about that? What about transitions of wondering when you should stay or go. How do you know what to do when you're married and you think you want a divorce? How do you lessen the change? If you're in a relationship that's a struggle, where do you go from there? Do you think if I try and get out, I might be missing out on the best that's yet to come? Or, you feel it's going to be the same old same old so figure out how to leave in the same old way? There's some who transition from one person to the next with a blending period of a week or two. Someone once told me that he was hesitant to date me for two reasons- One, I gave no indication I was interested so how would he transition a friendship into a relationship. Two- because my past indicated future performance (you know that quote) and that I had gotten back with my ex boyfriend more than once so I would probably continue to do this. I wondered, did he realize that I write on this site and there's plenty about relationships that eventually come to an end and stay there? I used my divorce as a past behavior example as well...it was over and done with no returns. This man returned a couple of times to the same person and I thought should I take note of that, is that what he's trying to tell me? Then, I had another man tell me there was a time he was hoping I'd go out with him because my dedication to working it out and persistence in trying to always step it up each time I had returned to that very relationship was impressive and a quality he most admired. It was also mentioned that the steady removal of my kids and myself showed an understanding of a transition phase in relationships. It seems when a couple of men had talked about their marriage/divorce situations with me there seemed to be this lack of wanting to work things out on the part of the women so my returning to try again appeared admirable. I'll leave out what I thought of my own return for now. Times of transition are hard when you have to leave something behind and move onto something better or for that matter even something unknown. I always hear the song "To Sir With Love" and think of transitions of growing up and growing out of relationships. I have a particular person in mind when I hear it. No I didn't have a romance with any teacher of mine back in the day, well...I take that back I did have one with a TA but he was close to my age and not like the song at all but I digress. I look around me with all of the transitions and look forward to the fall and the possibilities of good that lie ahead. However, I'm not really in relationship transition at this time but hope you can share your stories for those that are. I'd be happy to help with my thoughts on it.
22 comments:
How do you transition out of a relationship that you wanted to be in but the other person gave up?
I want to leave the man I date and go back to my other boyfriend before him. My mom told me if I do this then no one will date me ever again if it ends because the other men will think I'll always run back to him. I don't think that's true. I looked up the quote past performance future indication and there are a lot of areas where I don't do this but if you believe in love and learning from mistakes why shouldn't you do this?
You must be in your forties if you are buying transitional furniture. I have been doing this and my friends are redecorating and knocking out walls to put up bookshelves and transition into the new part of their serious life. I have been sitting in my house and feeling complete even without a man after I left a man after four years. My counselor told me to feel this completeness for almost a year before I date and get serious again. My kids are in their teens and a handful. I have been transitioning with them and their counselors agree that you have to not just get stable but keep that stableness going for many many months even a year before adding something else to it like a parent dating. My ex husband has been dating different women ever since we divorced and it's an unstable envioronment for my children. I have to be the stable one. When I broke it off with my boyfriend I did start dating but saw the effect it had on my kids. Kids need to know their parents are home for them even if they aren't sitting there with you.
Savannah,
I'm with you on this transition phase stuff. I have a son going into middle school, a daughter going to high school and another daughter going to college and I'm a widower. My wife died three years ago and that was a small transition because she was very ill for a few years. You knew the time was coming and had time to prepare. I don't think you are ever ready to lose your loved one but after all the suffering, you learn to move on and have probably prepared for some of it. My wife helped plan her funeral before she passed and we knew what to say to the kids. We're a family and have trouble with transitions and seek outside help. This year is a big change for all of us. The two younger ones will miss their big sister and she was my rock. I had met someone I thought I should ask out but my in laws told me this wasn't the time because of all the changes. There seemed to be less change when my wife passed away then with all of the school changes. The illness prepared us better for that then anything can prepare for these changes in schedules, hormones, rules, responsiblities and a sister leaving. I know that parents sacrifice for their kids and I am prepared to do that but do you have any suggestions on how to also prepare kids for a dating situation when the counselors and in laws all agree that dating can be tolorated by the kids?
I am in a limbo world with a man. He has to work on his life and kids and I'm in love with him. He wants me to be there when he's ready to date. He tells me he hopes I'll wait. When I told him I met someone that I wanted to date, he said no, he'll be ready and to please not date anyone. I want him to say go ahead and have his blessing but that's not realistic. Should I date anyway or do what he says?
in limbo
Above:
Limbo for me was never a good place until I took control of limbo times. Someone else may be in limbo about their thoughts, feelings, and timeframes but that doesn't mean you need to be. You need to decide what you really want when this is all over and how you picture it all looking. A vision sort of speak. If he can't give you what you want but he's asking you to wait and told you not do date anyone, you need to decide if that's in your best interest. In many cases of limbo regarding others I know and myself at a time, I've only heard of people who are focused on what they are trying to accomplish and even though they don't like the others dating, they have learned to accept it might happen and that's that because there is something important having to take the forefront and dating isn't it. One woman told me she hated knowing that the man she loved was out dating but when her limbo was over and she was available, she didn't choose him because he did go date and not understand. Another person told me he had no respect for the person who sat in limbo with him and put up with his demands and when his limbo was over he left her. But a different man wanted to marry the woman that waited with him through his limbo but the woman left because he wasn't ready to marry right after and when he was it was too late in time. When I listen to these stories and think of my own, I can only tell you to be true to you and what you want, need and are capable of really giving. I know that may seem vague but if you really sit down and think about it all, it will become more specific.
Savannah Jones
To the man with all of the school changes. I am very sorry for your loss and for all of the changes that can be stressful. I think the counselors who know your children can give you better advice about dating in your shoes than I could give. When things had changed suddenly for my kids we were just getting used to the status quo. It was like someone put on the brakes and now we have to make a U-Turn right in the middle of our detour. It was all so strange. The brain, the emotions and our physical health which had been compromised leading up to the sudden change all needed time to catch up. Each person has a different measure for when they feel that life is stabalizing and for what they are ready to handle. I turned to many different specialists for help with this when life through us a curveball. There are a lot of people who write in about counselors they've turned to for help about behavior changes. I don't know if it was really a counselor or a psychologist they saw. They each take on different roles that are both helpful but your situation changes as everyone adjusts and more than one person might be needed to assess the situation. I think the professionals would be best to guide you in this more than me.
Savannah Jones
Savannah,
I get what both men were saying to you but I'm both put into one. I admire a woman for her persistance in going back to a man and wanting it to work out. She loves him and I think he loves her but there's problems. There are problems in all relationships and these two aren't any different. The other side of this is I admire her when she leaves because she won't put up with sh-t. I keep in mind that the guys days are numbered and it will end one day for good, or she'll marry him and who knows? I only know that she transitions out of the relationship carefully and rushes into transition when she goes back. I don't think the idea of going back and breaking up concerns me as much as her transition ability. Handling transition is important. Being able to catch up to change is important. The idea that she returns to someone she loves means she'll return to me if she loved me. That's a good thing. The guy who thought it was bad, you might be right that he was returning to his other exes for a reason.
I'm transitioning to a new job title and with it comes more stress. My relationship isn't transitioning with the job. I have more importance now and my guy doesn't like it. He tells me that I'm lying about what I'm doing and I'm not that important. He also tells me he loves me just the way I am. The way I am is all of these things even the ones he doesn't believe. I am not sure when the transition phase if over if we'll still be together and I don't know what to do about that. I am very hurt by him. My friends tell me he's purposely dimissing my achievements to make me less important. When he tells me I'm lying he's doing this to say there's no way he thinks I'm capable of climbing any ladder. I ran a meeting and prepared for it when he wasn't around. I showed him all of my prep papers but he told me I made it all up. What do you think I should do?
Transistions aren't like meantimes I guess. Transitions to me mean I'm evolving. I'm making changes and the meantime is what do I do when I'm stuck?
I am sure the guy I dated transitioned through women. He knows he doesn't want to be with the woman he's with so he finds another and when he gets that new one in a solid love situation about to happen, he breaks up and then goes to her. I think I was the transition girl and I think the next one after me was too. When I transition I don't find anyone else, I work on the problems and deal with it.
What do you do when you know that a transition in the mind of the one you love was taking place but the relationship shouldn't have and wouldn't have transitioned if the man you love would have stuck to his promise to be faithful and not contact others from his past?
My boyfriend did that to me and I thought everything was fine and then he suddenly didn't think it was fine. It was like he had to dip his stick in anything that would let him if he thought he was losing his hold on someone. I don't want him back but I'd like to know why this is his method and not love them leave them and start over later.
I'd like a man's answer if a man would dare to answer.
I didn't understand why a man broke up with me and I wanted it to work but I wasn't giving up what I wanted to do it. I dropped off some wine at his house and his old girlfriends car was there. I waited for her to leave and followed her to her house. I drove by and took her address down. I'm not like this but I had to understand. I found out not too far later that she was with him and his girlfriend while he was contacting me and trying to work on things. It's true that I sort of made some intimate things happened but he didn't stop it from happening. She found out it turns out and their relationship ended and mine with him began. When mine ended it ended because he went back to her. I don't want anything to do with this man I don't think she does either but I would like to understand that moment of transition and how to spot it next time. That woman was so kind to me, and understanding. She didn't even get mad at me for following her home. She felt sorry for me that I was in the dark and explained that this was typical to have happened and it wasn't the first time. It happened to her too. She's able to put this in a perspective that I haven't gotten a hold of yet and I would like the guy to leave me alone but he doesn't. He still emails and I lead him on while I'm dating others. I'm not in transition but I feel like it's best to keep him somewhere where I can see how he does this. The one woman told me that when the emails pick up on my side they are probably falling by the wayside for someone else. I felt so sad when she said this but it's true.
Savannah,
Why refrain from sharing your point of view of returning to your old boyfriend? I think it helps others if you could share this information. Personally, I go back to my old girlfriend and she has a way of making me miss her and she knows what to say to get me to want her. She knows what I want and need but can't give it all to me. We go back and forth and have for years. I transition by having other women in my life that I don't let go of even though I should. I start to take an interest and go from there. A friend told me that in time, these women will all know each other or I'd end up dating a couple of women who are friends and not even know it. I fear the truth of it. What do you think or how do you feel about your past of going back and forth and I hope you'll share this with us because it would be helpful to hear a woman's side.
Hoping
I want to hear about the TA? I'm assuming that's a teacher's assistant and if close in age it was college. I have a friend who has a daddy daughter relationship with her boyfriend. He cares for her like a daughter and she looks to him like a father and they are close in age. It transitioned from a friendship into this. I'm transitioning if that's the word to use from a long long relationship that was really rocky. I had to make the decision to leave when the time was right. The time came and I said goodbye but I don't know where to go from here.
To the person looking for a man's response...I'm not sure why gender is relevant to your situation. If I read your situation right, you thought you were in transition with him, and while you were in that state, he was with other people? Any you want to know why he did this instead of just leaving you, is that it?
I don't that being a guy makes me more qualified to answer this. I know some people can find it difficult to end a relationship, so will engage in behavior that causes the other person to end the relationship. Others want to know they have another person set up before they leave the one they're with becuase they just can't be alone, but want to really commit to anyone.
But maybe I'm not reading your situation and question clearly enough...
Just a guy
Well Hoping, it goes something like this...I'm in transition in general in life. I'm in the middle of it currently not necessarily in the middle with the relationship transition just life. There are many times one looks back at life and sees it differently each time based on new information, new situations, which can create new perspectives. Taking time away from the situation doesn't always make me want to return it provides some reflection time to not only move on but hopefully be better in the next chapters of my life. I don't comment on this yet because all of my reasons for returning were purely based in love and then some other beliefs that didn't always turn out like I had hoped. I'm still taking that one step back to reflect as I take two steps forward. The reason will change as it's in transition so I don't like to make a final statement.
Savannah Jones
A guys point of view: Have you ever met a woman who for no reason that was apparent just up and left a man and then later it turned out she had this other man all along? It's not a gender situation going on. Some men for their ego sake repeat patterns that are destructive but build the ego. Having a woman in waiting and setting up the perfect situation for it to happen is a challenge to men and then being able to say goodbye that much easier. It's simple and common. I don't do it but it is simple and common. Women do this too but maybe they don't own up to it.
Is it necessary to have a man's view on a universal problem? I understand in some of the other comments but this one seems universal and crosses the genders. My take on this is one of simple mind. We don't want to feel like a failure so we have someone there while we transitiion.
I've finally got one of these nailed Savannah.
Man's Point of View -- Men don't want to deal with their own emotions and setting up a person to be there when one relationship ends is the way to not feel anything but love. Love is exciting and wakes up the senses and a relationship that's been full blown and not run it's course but is in a course a path that never changes but goes forth, isn't exciting anymore and men get restless. If a man is restless he starts looking. If you're looking you become successful and you cast your rod and someone takes the bait. There's too much company in the bucket so someone who's been used up has to go. That's the way I see it and lovely new fleshy fish is staying until it isn't.
I am in love with a woman who like me but I'm not sure loves me. I don't know if she'll ever love me. She's transitioning through life right now and I just got out of my transition. What do I do with this? I want to be with her and become intimate with her but I can't get her to give up what she's moving toward to start a relationship with me.
Above:
Why would you want to make someone stop working toward a personal goal in order to be with you? Think about it, that's not really being supportive of her and maybe that's where the issue in falling in love with you lies. I wouldn't want someone getting in the way of what I was working toward but it's great if they want to be along to see where it goes.
Savannah Jones
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