What if there wasn't a label attached to your relationship, would it go more smoothly? When there's no label attached to a relationship, is the pressure off or is there more concern and doubt? This labeling idea would even include the "friends with benefits" term. Expectations change as a couple tries to define what it is they have together and when expectations are included they are no longer met as a welcome surprise but a must do or else check off list. If you don't want to be with anyone other than who you're with, do you need to define it, describe it, make it seem more valid by giving it a name or is that something others place on us? I was thinking back to a time when someone once asked me to explain what I was with a man and as soon as the question was asked, the stakes seemed somehow raised. I was enjoying myself without a description, we were enjoying each other's company but now the pressure of what are we "really" sunk in and I no longer was into this. Would the relationship have gained momentum without the pressure or fizzle out like it did once I had to really look at this as a meaningful lifetime walk around and claim one another thing? Thinking back to times that remained as memorable in friends minds, it seemed the first time someone was introduced as more than just their name made a big impression. I remember one man telling me he never felt so loved as when a woman he was dating introduced him as her boyfriend at a party. He felt like he really was a couple with her more at that moment than any other time prior. He said it did change some things like spending the night together at each other's places, considering themselves as one most of the time as a partnership. It upped the ante sort of speak. He said that when she wanted more out of the relationship as live ins and then marriage, he ended the relationship. He didn't want to be anything more with her or anyone else. He went on to add that later the relationship turned into friends with benefits and that was all he was capable of giving to her. I love you's were exchanged during those moments and I wondered did both understand what was meant by those words at the time and were both expressing them for the same reasons. Sometimes people love someone because of a past they shared or moments shared at the time but not as a wife/husband in the future. Labels seem to make others feel more comfortable when dealing with couples. I know people who can handle a mistress as long as that's the label given for the situation in the open and no guessing is required. Do labels dictate the rules or do people have enough values and morals to adhere to what they feel is right within the framework without a discussion?
Do you constantly feel you need to define what you are with someone or can you fly by the seat of your pants? Do you need the reassurance of a label to guide your moral compass and keep the flow going as a guide to when to call it quits? Labels - what's your take on it?
©2009 Savannah Jones
May 21, 2009
What if there were no labels?
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you need a definition and label or how else would you know what you are to someone else.
I know what you mean here. You're saying what I do all of the time. I won't ask a man what he thinks we are and I won't ask if he's dating others because that means we are exclusive. Our life would change with others if we put labels to us.
Friends with benefits if you name it, changes. No one really wants to be this with someone they love deep down.
I like being introduced as the girlfriend and won't move in until I'm the wife. These labels should match the real situation. A girlfriend shouldn't be a live in.
When I wanted to know if I was serious with a woman, I had to ask. I'm used to women asking me if we can be serious. I wasn't used to this and it's what made me want her even more. I asked her this in the first week. We went out everynight since the day we met so I asked her on the 7th night. She couldn't believe I didn't know she wanted only me. We dated for a few years and she was the most loyal person I've ever dated.
About this label stuff. How else would you know what you are to someone if we didn't label them and how would anyone else know?
I lived in a dream world of thinking that I lived in the shadow of a man that was an important person in my girlfriend's life. They still talk and keep in touch and she has many memories of him and the memories are good ones. I know they aren't together anymore so there had to be some bad times and I know there were. For a long time I felt I'd never measure up or know her like him. A friend told me to stop putting myself on her and telling her what she should and shouldn't do and start seeing her for who she is. She's a strong woman and I keep trying to stop her from being a girly girl at times because I'm used to seeing her strength. I like the girly girl side too. I wondered why my friend gave me that advice in the way he did. I finally asked her what that other man really means to her. I was surprised at the answer. It's a link to her past, a man she really loved the most and someone who also hurt her the most. I asked her to give me a label and she said an old friend that I care very much about but someone I could never be in a relationship with again. Then, I asked if she could love anyone like she did him or as much as him. The answer was vague- She could love someone completely and a lot. She's open to loving someone more than she loved him, he knows a part of her that no one else takes the time to know, work with or appreciate she said. Somewhere in her look I saw her be sad and then she took my hand and told me that she misses someone who could do that. My summary of this is she wants someone who can find her and understand her and she liked that he could but didn't like that it came from him. I felt better and feel there's a chance. I also feel that without labels for the men her past I wouldn't know my future or feel good about it.
I want to spy on a woman I'm seeing or at least want a relationshnip with. I want to see her emails. I think there's something going on between her and her ex and that's why she doesn't proceed with me. How do I go about doing this?
Assuming that you've asked her that something was going on and she said no, you don't do anything further for many reasons. I have a hard time interpreting a tone in certain peoples emails so imagine reading something from someone you don't understand... Not to mention what you're asking to do is very very wrong. If you're having to do this then you need a reality check into your own reasons for needing this and/or a check on what type of relationship you're entering into. I don't want to be worried about an ex and in the past when those little knots in my stomach would enter...well...I didn't have reason to worry I'd lose someone but I had plenty of proof something wasn't right about the whole situation. IF this has to do with labeling who you are compared to an ex...ask!
Savannah Jones
This is what I'm talking about Savannah!
This is original thinking and probably not a bad idea.
RFT
Dream world person. I'm a woman who talks with and emails frequently with my old boyfriend. We are close and will remain close. We are not going to resume any relationship intimately. There's no threat to my current boyfriend. I make sure of this because my current boyfriend can outdue my last one by being faithful. My current boyfriend is divorced due to his ex cheating and I know I don't have to worry about that with him. My last boyfriend was caught cheating on me by me with no way to deny it. I can stay friends with him but will never want anything more. You shouldn't worry about the other guy unless that other guy is able to give her something you can't.
My opinion on this topic is simple without the stress of the name it's borderline a fling and can and/or maybe will break when confronted by people what's there status.
The benefits of the name is also the stresses caused by societies standards care to answer my comparison real quick but what is the difference between a long term girlfriend your living with and fiancee your living with for same amount of years?
Above,
I almost thought this was a joke ... you know the what's the difference between type of joke. So my flippant first answer was - the difference is one girl has a ring and the other doesn't. One girl has more clout and status in societies eyes and one is just there as a companion with no promise. Do I really feel this way at heart about this? Somewhat- but again like everything else, we really don't have the inside scoop unless we are one of the players on the stage and in the end perception afterall is reality.
Savannah Jones
One more thing...in some states I think if you're living together for ten years or more...ring or no ring...one can sue for palimony if it ends. So theres one place where it won't matter if you're live in girlfriend or live in fiance.
Savannah Jones
Oh darn i didn't make you think long enough if you thought it was a joke.
Yes, it's true in some states they can do that but in some states you get the same benefits married or not ie shared insurance etc. Why i was asking in all seriousness.
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