April 29, 2009

Why can't we be friends...?

"Friends...right? We can still talk and see each other, can't we?" Words uttered by one as a relationship has come to the end. Or, you hear, “Stay away! Don't call, don't email, and don’t ask to see me." The question of what to do with all of the feelings of a life and years gone by enters the mind as one says goodbye. Relationships take time to grow, to become trusting, and to form an unbreakable bond. If you've been in a lengthy relationship you know how you build a routine of calls, activities, days/nights together, hobbies, projects and basically a routine new life as a couple. So, what to do if one of you decides to bail out, falls out of love, can't hack it, finds someone else? You're ebb and flow of life becomes out of sync but in some cases the balance as you remember it, might automatically return with the disappearance of the relationship. Either way you're left to start a new life alone. This can be a difficult time because everything you did, you did with your best friend, confidant, and life is better when shared by two. What do you do now? Like a divorce, you might have to spend time undoing connections such as financial matters, splitting up items, etc. Once that's out of the way, one or both of you will want to know how to proceed from there. Do you desire to be friends, how friendly do you want it, or should you cut your losses and go cold turkey? My thoughts on friends after break ups are more along the lines of - there were great things between the two that kept it going. These traits and chemistry will always be present when renewing a friendship while the negative memories and frustrations that caused the break up are removed. Therefore, if you continue to see each other, you could be on this merry - go -round of hope for years. Some relationships run their course with both parties amicably ending it. Those people may realize there's nothing left and move on. Others love and care for each other dearly and keep a foot in the door for the just in case I made a mistake moment, the I can't find what I'm really looking for moment, or silly me, everyone has shortcomings but I like yours better moment. Some really do want to stay friends and can pull it off without any harm to a future apart. I'd still create some distance for awhile before attempting this. It will allow for you to begin creating a new routine, find new interests, and catch up on all that fell by the wayside during your relationship. I think people really believe good-bye has to be forever. In some cases it's imperative. However, technology today allows us to reach out and touch someone with barriers. I can send well wishes or chat without that attraction/feelings factor. Even a phone call can set someone back in time (good/bad) and impinge on our self created boundaries. Controllable distance is all about willpower. I think we know what's best for us during these times and try to provide what we need. Sometimes we choose to not rid ourselves of familiar surroundings, it isn't the right time. Maybe you aren't steady on your emotional feet yet and ready to let go. Eventually, one hopes that the steadiness will find its way to your well being and letting go will become second nature to you. As you let go, emotional stability becomes a part of who you are. You may feel like you're falling since there's no one by your side to pick you up, but really you might have just earned your wings and begun to fly.

We deliberate greatly over how to say it's not working out. We try to get the perfect ending knowing that there's a greater chance that the ending may dictate the viability of a future friendship and/or relationship. One thing I have noticed- Time and distance create change if you want it to. It's a chance to fly solo and find out who you are and what you like when you're alone. That reflective step back might really be two steps forward towards moving on.

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©2009 Savannah Jones

35 comments:

friend said...

You never write what I'm expecting you to write. I think this is beautifully written from someone who has seen it all. I like the end and the flying part.

friend.

Anonymous said...

I really like the comments on why someone would keep their foot in the door. Yes, I have a man in my life who does this even though I'm in a great rewarding relationship with someone else. One day I just know he's going to come back and do the "silly me" line. I will be gone and am gone for good because he was mean to me when he broke up. He was looking for a way out and cutting me down and being mean was his way. Life was going good and he was a pain in it. Balance is also easy because he's gone now.

Anonymous said...

Wings to fly...I don't feel that way right now. I feel empty and alone. I have friends calling all of the time but I wish it was him calling. The guy that broke up with me was yelling about something else and then said it's over. That was it. He didn't call back and wouldn't take any of my calls. No emails were answered and I'm left with all of these questions.

Anonymous said...

Why did this take so long for you to write. I've been waiting to see this and frankly, I'm dissappointed in it. You took the high road and I wonder if you practice this. Is this really how you feel about breaking up? You really believe it's a chance to find yourself? I don't.

Anonymous said...

I too find this a great time to figure out what I want. I dated a man for two years and forgot what i liked to do in general. When we broke up I was crying for days and then one day decided that he might have chosen someone else but I need to choose me. I started reading and found friends were listening to me again now that I wasn't with him. What I don't understand is how come it's viewed like I don't want to be with him even though he decided to leave me for someone else.

Savannah Jones said...

Two comments above:
So you're disappointed that I try to make good out of a bad situation? What about you, what do you do when there's a break up?

Savannah Jones

Anonymous said...

Savannah,
I waited and waited for this and it took so long for you to write but I see why now that you posted. I like the comments that you put in your column about the moment times and keeping the door open. I think men do this all of the time to women. I guess there's women who do this too but I don't know. I also like the comments about perfect endings and trying to get one. My relationship that mattered the most to me ended in a heated argument and a lot of hanging up on one another. I thought I lost the man I love but I gained a whole new life without him and realized how bad the relationship really was. I like what Savannah wrote and do think for people with higher level thinking you get better results. We email every now and then to say hi. Our families were entertwined we were together a long long time. I like my life and have started to date but slowly.

Anonymous said...

Are any of these quotes that I can find on the internet? I like the flying saying and the "dictating the viability of a future." This is all so true and I want to find more on it.

Savannah Jones said...

Thanks for the compliment :)
This is all original and out of my head.

Savannah Jones

Anonymous said...

Impinge on self created boundaries? what does that mean? I had to look up impinge and understand but what does it all mean?

Impinging here

Savannah Jones said...

Haven't you ever created boundaries to keep yourself protected, on the right track and others away from hurting you or setting you back? Those would be self created boundaries. In this case of break ups and contact. I have boundaries. I can allow certain contact at times and not other kinds of contact. Dinner might be hard to pull off but coffee is easier to deal with. Having a drink just to say hi and check in with each other has proven not a good idea for a lightweight like myself. Not everyone involved gets together to say hi for the same reason so the boundaries need to be respected by your own self. The boundary is crossed when a call comes and you choose to answer it. You don't have complete control of how that call with go. Boundaries are a good thing as long as you let the right people in.

Savannah Jones

Anonymous said...

What you are saying is keep control over you and your own emotions and don't let someone who hurt you run your life or the course of your life am I right?

It's a good message if that's what you're saying. I wanted to stay friends with my boyfriend because I didn't want to lose him. If I had him in my life, I could make him jealous, I could make him want me more and I could also know if someone else was going to get his very best and that's when I'd really step up the charm and promises. All I did was ruin my own life. I had a man who really liked me but I was too set on staying with this man that I messed up my own life. We never got back together and I threw away some good years.

Anonymous said...

Cold turkey for me. I want out, out quickly. I don't date for long relationships like everyone on this site. I've only had a thing last about 4 to 5 months. I try and keep it simple. It shouldn't be work and if it's not working I get out and don't look back. Usually I get out if the sex is bad and the part too small.

Anonymous said...

I'd want to have sex with my ex so that's why I can't be friends. I can't look at her and not want her.

RFT said...

This was sent to my office and it's a great piece of work.

RFT

Anonymous said...

I like the idea but wonder if it really works. Can you really take a step back and that feels like a step forward. I keep dating over and over and don't stop because I want to be married. I don't take a break in between. What's to reflect on, I want to be married. I like what you say and I am friends with all of the men I dated but I don't take a break. Do men not like that idea? I don't think it's any different than what men do.

Anonymous said...

Was told to peek in - great work!

Anonymous said...

Savannah,
Why do you think we take so much time to figure out how to get out of a relationship? I know we care about the person but we practice our speeches all the time everytime. I know I do does any body else do it? Do you think men do it.

Anonymous said...

This is a real answer to the cold trukey approach. All you ever read about is drop the person completely but no one ever tells you what to do to fill the void.

Anonymous said...

Savannah I like that this article came after the betrayal one. Your ending says it all. Your ending on here and endings in relationships. If you betray someone's trust or faith in you being there for them, you ruin the chance of wanting to see you for awhile.

Anonymous said...

Savannah,
I have kept up with your site since March. How can you say that you would be able to be friends with someone after they rip your heart out? It's a rhetorical question I ask because if someone hurts me and wants out of a relationship, I don't want to be their friend. Do people really want to stay friends with others who were in relationships with them but hurt them? Okay maybe not a rhetorical question. I think I really really want an answer to this. Guys why not give this a try and answer.

Savannah Jones said...

I think I'll let the guys answer this one and see first.

Anonymous said...

As a guy, I'll do my best to respond.

I think it's important to put things in perspective. Keeping in touch with someone, because there are still issues to be resolved, or the life was so joined it's hard to break apart, is different than being friends.

I've stayed in touch with some women I've been involved with. I'd like to think that neither one of us had betrayed the other...maybe things didn't work out the way they liked, but each of us tried our best. So when Savvy talks about how hard clean breaks are, don't confuse the actions of trying to resolve things after the relationship is over with being friends.

That being said, I personally, do not think I could stay friends with people who have done some of the things cited here. I tend be an incredibly trusting person, but when that trust is violated, I have a hard time keeping that person in my circle.

I think what I see as I read through all these hard felt, hard earned posts, is that every situation is different. At times a clear break might be best, at others perhaps a friendship can be maintained. How you deal with the situation is up to you, and what's right for you may not be right for someone else. Nothing is clear cut and simple.

Anonymous said...

A guys perspective:
I'll try to address this in a way most fitting for this site. I have a relationship with a woman that goes on and will continue to go on for as long as I can see. It's not intimate anymore and I don't see it going back to those times. I'd like it to when I'm lonely and miss her, which is often. She practices restraint. There are things that don't get said because if said, we'd find a way to work it out and renew the true bonding relationship. We stay in touch is how I'd say we stayed friends. Friends- those are people you see, you spend time with, who you share your life with by talking, emailing, calling, one on one time. This woman would not consider emailing or texting a friend relationship. I don't believe I do either but feel comforted that I'm allowed that time. When Savannah wrote about endings and clean cut break ups she covered her basis. There are no easy answers and breaking up for each has it's own components. I enjoy feeling that I can help this woman when she needs and I know she'd do the same for me. I also know that this woman has walked away cold turkey from an ex husband, an ex boyfriend, and even a friend because it was necessary. Some situations require it and strong people manage to find a way. Not all guys are cold and callous, not all guys want a foot in the door but like women, guys want to think that if they spent years with a woman, you'd think about each other and care.

Anonymous said...

Man's view - -

I stay friends with a woman and I do mean friends because I care about her and she cares about me. We aren't a compatable pair for marriage. We are happy together but also date others. We were a couple for 4 years. We combined our lives, our kids, our ambitions. You don't walk out cold turkey on it. We kept a distance to try and get our lives on track without each other but found that we enjoyed so many things together. We double date and it's a great way of life for us both.

Anonymous said...

I read your site weekly and sometimes my eyes get open. This is one of those times. I wouldn't say that I think about how I'm ending it with someone a lot. I end it. Usually there's a fight or some disagreement. I don't wait until everythings good and then do it. What's the point in that? I don't stay friends with the women but no woman has asked me to. I read your ending to this post and maybe it's the reason I don't remain friends. I don't take the time to think out the ending. Is there a better way to break up? A break up is a break up it's over.

Anonymous said...

my life is different than what people write about on here and hope men and women can help with advice. I'm not in a relationship anymore with a woman that I love very much. I also am a man who has a problem with letting go. I'm dating a different lady now and play second to the man that was in her life prior to me. He plays a very pivotal roll in her kids life even though this isn't an ex husband. I know the answer is always whatever is best for the kids is what is best but I don't even get a chance to become the best. I've had to admit that I don't "gel" with her kids the way this guy does. I don't relate and am a little more on the superficial when I'm around the kids. I'm not their way with my sense of humor or how I control. I'm controlling. Savannah, I know you're single and have dated based on the advice you give and I'd like your advice but I'd like a potpourri to choose from so I hope others will write in.

Savannah Jones said...

Before I give advice I want to know what part you left out? You said you love a woman that you are no longer with and I thought that would have something to do with what you said next but nothing about that was said. Am I not getting it?

Savannah Jones

Anonymous said...

I'm not liking this post either because you say it's okay to stay friends. I don't believe anyone should stay friends or friendly with their ex. It gets in the way of future talks in other relationships

Anonymous said...

You are giving away the foot in the door secrets. I keep a foot in the door in case I made a mistake.

Anonymous said...

Came here looking for nice guy stuff and I like this about being friends. It helps all of us nice guys.

Newscientist sent me here through a link.

Anonymous said...

I sent something two days ago and it didn't make it past moderation can you tell me why?

Anonymous said...

I can tell you that if you are one of the comments that mentioned actual names and didn't say that you made the names up...I didn't post. There wasn't anything really inflammatory in what you said and I never heard of those names before but wanted to err on this side of caution. If you wish to resubmit using "other" names, that would be fine.

Savannah Jones

Anonymous said...

It's like when Harry said to Sally - men and women can't be friends.

Anonymous said...

If neither of you are dating someone else, you can be friends.